All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down - Page 36

the-cable-guy · 15-05-2008, 03:07

even if VM do sort things out, some ppl will still not pay cuz they can get away with it.

Hiroki · 15-05-2008, 03:11

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

even if VM do sort things out, some ppl will still not pay cuz they can get away with it.

True but could you have one of those boxes with the fear that you could be found out at any moment?

I know they say the talkback to virgin isn't there but they can tell where the signal drain is on the network so it's only a matter of time before they go knocking on doors.

I still don't understand why the hackers don't go after sky....lot more on offer there and a lot more money I would've though

the-cable-guy · 15-05-2008, 03:24

well it doesnt seem to bother ppl. as for Videoguard its the only system that hasnt been hacked. many think that it has although the keys have never been made public, cuz the hackers are too scared of Sky & their lawyers. however whether this is true or not im not too sure but some ppl think so.

Losttheplot · 16-05-2008, 16:03

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

well it doesnt seem to bother ppl. as for Videoguard its the only system that hasnt been hacked. many think that it has although the keys have never been made public, cuz the hackers are too scared of Sky & their lawyers. however whether this is true or not im not too sure but some ppl think so.

I've said before, every NDS Videoguard installation is different. Although various companies use Videoguard, the smartcards are different on every system. Hence only people really in the UK are interested in looking at Sky's encryption.
When backdoors where found in Nagras smartcards, it wasn't in the UK. South America and Spain did most of the work. The backdoors that were found in South America and Spain were then used in the UK as some of the smartcards ROM versions were the same in the UK.

16-05-2008, 16:13

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

even if VM do sort things out, some ppl will still not pay cuz they can get away with it.

Not like TV is worth paying for these days anyway.

None stop repeats, very few good shows, none stop annoying adverts etc.

Enuff · 16-05-2008, 16:43

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Not like TV is worth paying for these days anyway.

None stop repeats, very few good shows, none stop annoying adverts etc.

I've been saying that for years... The licence fee increases every year but TV stays the same. But there's nowt we can do apart from get rid of everything in the house that is capable of recieving a tv signal. I wish the bbc would just scramble their channels so that if we wanted to watch we'd pay like we do with VM and Sky. But that wont happen because i'd bet they'd go bust! Nobody wants it.

the-cable-guy · 16-05-2008, 16:44

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Not like TV is worth paying for these days anyway.

None stop repeats, very few good shows, none stop annoying adverts etc.

so that makes it ok then does it ?

16-05-2008, 16:47

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

so that makes it ok then does it ?

You realise technically they aint stealing TV as the signal goes to every property...

The only thing illegal is decrypting the channels.

I dont think its right to do it, but i dont care if someone does..to be honest.

I certainly wouldnt pay to watch crap TV.

People who download tv shows are just as bad in that respect...and that's something most of us do...

the-cable-guy · 16-05-2008, 16:49

so your trying to justify it now hay ? stealing is stealing the signal does come your house, but watching pay tv that you having paid for is both illegal & wrong period.

16-05-2008, 16:56

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

so your trying to justify it now hay ? stealing is stealing the signal does come your house, but watching pay tv that you having paid for is both illegal & wrong period.

I'm not trying to justify anything.

I'm just sure most of us do worse on a daily basis.

I have more important things to worry about than someone decryption a signal...

You CANT steal a signal that is always entering the house, they are not stealing anything

the-cable-guy · 16-05-2008, 16:57

yes you can if its a pay tv channel that you havent paid for.

16-05-2008, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Enuff

I've been saying that for years... The licence fee increases every year but TV stays the same. But there's nowt we can do apart from get rid of everything in the house that is capable of recieving a tv signal. I wish the bbc would just scramble their channels so that if we wanted to watch we'd pay like we do with VM and Sky. But that wont happen because i'd bet they'd go bust! Nobody wants it.

Actually, believe it or not, they cant give you a fine for not paying a TV license and having equipment that is capable of recieving channels.

I know they like to put adverts up sayin they can...but trust me, they cant.

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

yes you can if its a pay tv channel that you havent paid for.

That's not stealing.

The channel is already broadcasting.

They are just descrambling, yes it's illegal, but it isnt stealing.

the-cable-guy · 16-05-2008, 16:59

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Actually, believe it or not, they cant give you a fine for not paying a TV license and having equipment that is capable of recieving channels.

I know they like to put adverts up sayin they can...but trust me, they cant.

? you not paying ya tv license now aswell then ?
That's not stealing.

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Originally Posted by TraxData

The channel is already broadcasting.

They are just descrambling, yes it's illegal, but it isnt stealing.

its both actually

16-05-2008, 17:01

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

? you not paying ya tv license now aswell then ?

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its both actually

I dont watch TV.

I dont watch anything by the BBC (or listen), therefore ihave no need for a license.

You can report me if you like, i know the law very well and trust me they have nothing to stand on.

Why would i pay my tv license when i dont watch tv?

LOL you have alot to learn, it's not stealing.

the-cable-guy · 16-05-2008, 17:04

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Originally Posted by TraxData

I dont watch TV.

I dont watch anything by the BBC (or listen), therefore ihave no need for a license.

You can report me if you like, i know the law very well and trust me they have nothing to stand on.

Why would i pay my tv license when i dont watch tv?

LOL you have alot to learn, it's not stealing.

? so why are you a member of a forum for cable tv then ? even if you dont watch the BBC's channels you still have to pay a tv license.