All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down

[Nedkelly]

I have been going to a lot of faults lately for missing channels .There chipped box has gone off and they have put there paid for box put in .We find that some customers do this as there feed has been cut by us when we have been cleaning cabs out .I have also been aproached by people in the street who have said there box has gone off How long until they all go back are VM going to keep this up

[the-cable-guy]

most hacked receivers that iv seen can use VOD/PPV for free.

[A$h X]

Originally Posted by wilkie2

We went down to our local market today and as we were stood near the computer spares stall a bloke came up complaining that his 'box' wouldnt work,the bloke on the stall gave him 2 codes and said they were working this morning but if they aren't working now he would have to go on the internet and get the newer ones.

He said they will need to keep doing this until virgin get bored of changing them

He won't even have do to that now, seeing as new software is available for the third-party boxes which is auto-updating the keys. People still using the old official boxes with non-MOSC's are still waiting for the fix.
Nice work, VM.

[the-cable-guy]

lol bully for the hackers then init.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

most hacked receivers that iv seen can use VOD/PPV for free.

It is my understanding that the boxes that were hit by this latest Virgin offensive were the ones using software emulators. Correct? These boxes have no way to initiate a VOD request, nor do DVB-C card based systems. There is still no persuasive argument that dodgy boxes put any significant burden on the network or cause problems for legal subscribers. It does, however, seem clear that Virgin may in fact benefit from all the people who at least pay for a minimum subscription to ensure they have an active feed going to their dodgy boxes.

[Losttheplot]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

yep im not having ago but it wasnt me that tried to say that VM STBs use both Videoguard & Nagravision (they dont).

Nobody said VM use Videoguard and Nagra. However when Virgin do upgrade their encryption (most likely to another version of Nagra) then they will simulcrypt which means two encryption systems will be used at the same time, until all the old smart cards are swopped out.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by supremus

It is my understanding that the boxes that were hit by this latest Virgin offensive were the ones using software emulators. Correct? These boxes have no way to initiate a VOD request, nor do DVB-C card based systems. There is still no persuasive argument that dodgy boxes put any significant burden on the network or cause problems for legal subscribers. It does, however, seem clear that Virgin may in fact benefit from all the people who at least pay for a minimum subscription to ensure they have an active feed going to their dodgy boxes.

im not sure what receivers ppl use 2bh.

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Originally Posted by Losttheplot

Nobody said VM use Videoguard and Nagra. However when Virgin do upgrade their encryption (most likely to another version of Nagra) then they will simulcrypt which means two encryption systems will be used at the same time, until all the old smart cards are swopped out.

for what you were trying to say to work we would have to use two CAMs.

[Losttheplot]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

for what you were trying to say to work we would have to use two CAMs.

Nope, nothing of the sort. You think you know how it works. I used to and still do work with STB's and Professional receivers, encryption and compression. I have worked in two of the Virgin Super Headends.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

And what if they are just boasting? People do that sort of thing.

Isnt that their problem? Hang on while I go and boast to the Police that Im stealing cable, just wouldnt happen would it. So if they are thinking of saying it, then they might think twice before they do. Whats the point in reporting any crime because people might be boasying about it.

[piggy]

Originally Posted by Losttheplot

Nope, nothing of the sort. You think you know how it works. I used to and still do work with STB's and Professional receivers, encryption and compression. I have worked in two of the Virgin Super Headends.

thats maybe so but cable-guy checked his facts on google so he knows

[supremus]

Originally Posted by Losttheplot

I have worked in two of the Virgin Super Headends.

Wait, isn't that where islamic terrorists supposedly go when they've martyred themselves?

Originally Posted by shawty

Whats the point in reporting any crime because people might be boasying about it.

That's what evidence is for.

[Losttheplot]

Originally Posted by supremus

Wait, isn't that where islamic terrorists supposedly go when they've martyred themselves?

No they get Super Virgins in the end, thats something completely different. I can see why you mixed them up though!

[shawty]

Originally Posted by supremus

Wait, isn't that where islamic terrorists supposedly go when they've martyred themselves?

That's what evidence is for.

Exactly, so someone boasting they have stolen cable is evidence, and their own fault if they were lying.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by Losttheplot

No they get Super Virgins in the end, thats something completely different. I can see why you mixed them up though!

I guess the lesson here is that you should always read the fine print.

Originally Posted by shawty

Exactly, so someone boasting they have stolen cable is evidence, and their own fault if they were lying.

No, that's not evidence, I'm afraid.

[TaiLZ]

I've heard they've released some patch thingy for some boxes, didn't take them long did it to fix.