Anti Spam Petition

[obvious]

We the undersigned oppose ntl's plan to include spam in all outgoing webmail.

ntl's spam plan

What is the Activity/Change?
From Thursday 3 July 2003, all customers who send emails from the online Webmail application will have an auto signature appended to their emails. This is in addition to the user-configurable auto-signature already available via Webmail.


Why is it important?
The auto-signature will initially promote our Broadband product to all recipients of emails sent by our customers. Initial text will read:

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Go Fastâ₠¬Ã‚¦faster!
Find out more about Broadband Internet from the UKâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s No.1 provider
Visit http://www.ntlhome.com or call 0800 183 0123

Each email sent from the Webmail application will effectively become an advertisement for our services.

Who is affected?
Customers sending email from the online Webmail application (note: customers who send emails from a desktop resident application, eg. Outlook Express, are not affected)

You may select either or both options

This petition will be forwarded to ntl

[obvious]

They deleted all our saved emails >90 days old to make room for spam.

[Chris]

Ntl, I occasionally use webmail, which is part of the service I pay you for each month.

I am paying you for this service, and object strongly to your plan to piggy-back adverisements for your services on my private emails.

So perhaps you would like to contact me to let me know how much you plan to pay me for hire of the space at the bottom of my private email messages?

[danielf]

Originally posted by Andre
You took the words right out of my mouth Towny.

Ditto

[Sir Entiellot]

Lapost.net in France did exactly the same thing, and those two lines guarranteed that lapost.net was in EVERY DNS blacklist that you can think of.

I am beginning to wonder if monopolies and mergers should investigate NTL.
In Teesside we have 56K dial up from both BT and NTL or BB only from NTL. I am pretty certain that because of NTL's market hold, that companies such as Telewest etc wont cable up the area and offer a choice.

If I find out NTL are tampering with PRIVATE email, I shall sue them. They have no right to make any amendments to email that is both Private AND Confidential. It simply is invasion of privacy and I think that European laws will soon put a stop to their meddling.

[orangebird]

Originally posted by timewarrior2001
I am beginning to wonder if monopolies and mergers should investigate NTL.
In Teesside we have 56K dial up from both BT and NTL or BB only from NTL. I am pretty certain that because of NTL's market hold, that companies such as Telewest etc wont cable up the area and offer a choice.
<snip>

What about BT bb? If it's not available, surely ntl can't be held responsible for BT not being arsed to upgrade their exchange?

[Stuart]

Originally posted by timewarrior2001
I am beginning to wonder if monopolies and mergers should investigate NTL.
In Teesside we have 56K dial up from both BT and NTL or BB only from NTL. I am pretty certain that because of NTL's market hold, that companies such as Telewest etc wont cable up the area and offer a choice.

If I find out NTL are tampering with PRIVATE email, I shall sue them. They have no right to make any amendments to email that is both Private AND Confidential. It simply is invasion of privacy and I think that European laws will soon put a stop to their meddling.

Telewest and NTL have franchise agreements. Basically they cannot cable up the other's franchise areas. This was done to ensure competition for BT, and to ensure that competition does not rip itself to pieces by competing directly with fellow cable companies.

Regarding BT Broadband, BT do have a policy of only upgrading an exchange once interest reaches a certain "trigger level". Maybe your local exchange hasn't reached that level?

I don't agree with NTL adding to the sig on webmail though, us NTL users have paid to use the email service (well, I don't use it) so therefore NTL should not add advertisements to the mails sent through webmail. It effectively means they are charging us for them to advertise!

[Dave Stones]

i'm not too bothered to be honest. i hardly ever use my ntl mail, dont think people who i send the mail to will care about a little ad at the bottom. ive used hotmail for years thats had spam appended to it forever, and no one complains about that do they... suppose im not paying to use hotmail though...

[Enterian]

Its the sort of thing I'd expect from a free email service, only I'm paying for this!

[rippedoff]

I will NOT send out emails advertising the wonders of ntl broadband WHEN NTL CANNOT GIVE ME BROADBAND!

[Martin]

To be honest I hardly ever use Ntl Webmail. When I do use webmail I go for Hotmail or Yahoo. But I see everyones point if you pay for something you shouldn't have to carry ads for them.

[obvious]

This might be going overboard but..

Human Rights Act (1998), Article 8:
"RIGHT TO RESPECT FOR PRIVATE AND FAMILY LIFE
1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.

[Captain_caveman]

It's wrong just plain wrong.
Unless they plan to pay us for the privelage of using our e-mails as advertisments. But I don't see that happening.

[philip.j.fry]

Dear NTL,

I object to the recent changes in the NTLworld webmail application, this being the introduction of a message appended to the bottom of each outgoing e-mail advertising NTL products.

The e-mail service is part of the (broadband) internet package that I pay you for. With free e-mail service providers some method of recovering the cost is expected, however this does not apply to the NTL e-mail service. To have messages tagged onto the end is an invasion of the privacy of private communication and simply unproffessional.

Webmail is an essential utility for the checking of and sending of e-mail whilst away from an individuals home computer. Therefore, unless the offending content is removed immediately, I will be forced to run a private web-server/smtp server on a machine connected to the internet via my NTL connection.