Should Bill (CAP) Goodland go?

th'engineer · 04-07-2003, 12:30

Taking into account the amount of lost income to the company and possibly an effect on these JOBS.

Should Bill Goodland the CAP leave NTL at the same time as the 96 jobs in Wales

**Rob** · 04-07-2003, 13:12

I'm sorry, I'm as against the cap as anyone could be, but I really do not see how BG can be held totally responsible for the decision (I would like to see him held to account for the cap, but that's as far as it goes). Other managers and management decisions (looks like somebody at ntl can make them) should have greater culpability.

The cap may have had a small effect on profitability, some customers may have left or downgraded, others may have not have signed up. However this is not the only factor in ntl's profitability. They also do TV and telephony, and combined with BB services, all of which have their pros and cons and which affect the desirablility.

I hate to say it but to ntl's bean counters Cardiff is just another cost. All companies love to reinvent the wheel, without regard to those affected by job insecurity. That's the modern corporate world.

As I have said elsewhere I have every sympathy for those who are about to loose their jobs.

*Edit - I would suggest that this topic continue to be discussed in the original Newsflash thread

SMHarman · 04-07-2003, 15:28

But the cap is probably rev generative / neutral to the company.

You may lose some 1Mb BB users (loss of Revenue), but these are the users that were possibly (depending on use profile blah blah) soaking the UBRs and causign performance degredation on the network.

By those users quitting for ADSL you free up bandwidth improving the use for others and resulting in the need to buy less equipment (Lower Costs) to keep the network moving.

Lower Rev vs Lower costs - poss rev neutral.

**Chris** · 04-07-2003, 15:35

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Originally posted by SMHarman
But the cap is probably rev generative / neutral to the company.

You may lose some 1Mb BB users (loss of Revenue), but these are the users that were possibly (depending on use profile blah blah) soaking the UBRs and causign performance degredation on the network.

By those users quitting for ADSL you free up bandwidth improving the use for others and resulting in the need to buy less equipment (Lower Costs) to keep the network moving.

Lower Rev vs Lower costs - poss rev neutral.

Good point, expands on what I posted earlier in the 'Newsflash' thread.

Speaking of which, is this really a new topic? Perhaps it should get merged with the other one.

Dolphin · 04-07-2003, 17:41

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Originally posted by th'engineer
Taking into account the amount of lost income to the company and possibly an effect on these JOBS.

Should Bill Goodland the CAP leave NTL at the same time as the 96 jobs in Wales

Please can we have thÃ¢â‚¬â„¢engineer back?

I mean the one whose postÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s were always a bit quirky, but at least they contributed to discussions and were informative back in the heyday of NTHW.com.

These days thÃ¢â‚¬â„¢e just yaps about the same boring topics. Everything gets reduced to the level of NTL incomeptance, and snide remarks that contribute very little value in the way he used to.

This latest example is indeed sad. The fact that these people have lost their livelihoods is a human tragedy wherever it happened. Trying to score points off the back of it about your pet grievances is going too far m8. Its cheap.

This posting isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t about the Cap Ã¢â‚¬â€œ please can we have the old thÃ¢â‚¬â„¢e back?

(Flame away

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th'engineer · 04-07-2003, 19:05

I must admit before february i thought that NTL was turning a corner in customer service and honesty. I was happy that NTl was going from strength to strength . I even defended them and tried to get other sites working together. Then of all days my birthday they brought in the CAP. I have sent to AIzad and Goodland details about why it is unfair. Did i get a reply no even phoned up to talk about it and got a arrogant Monkey who would not listen.
So i might be bitter twisted but do want NTL to suceed as a alternative to BT . With Arrogant people in charge such as GOODLand not a chance M8.

th'engineer · 08-07-2003, 19:54

Now we have the AOL deal think he really needs to go think of all the extra customers he can upset

matty4donna · 08-07-2003, 20:02

no

th'engineer · 08-07-2003, 20:02

why not then

matty4donna · 08-07-2003, 20:10

i can't see that he has done much wrong and he seems to be one of the few people at ntl: who know what they are talking about.

kronas · 08-07-2003, 20:12

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Originally posted by matty4donna
i can't see that he has done much wrong and he seems to be one of the few people at ntl: who know what they are talking about.

hold on a sec he thinks every customer is dumb a noob we dont know how much 1gb is hes wrong thats an insult to peoples intelligence

also wasent he the one who instigated this cap ?

kronas · 08-07-2003, 20:19

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Originally posted by Andre
Do you mean a 'n00b'?

yes whatever we are not all l33t :p

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Originally posted by Andre

Yes he was.

so what has he done right then ?

he should go but he wont he seems to be an arrogant SOB and i dont think he will leave

matty4donna · 08-07-2003, 20:19

so let me get this straight.... you lot think he was the only reason why the "cap" came about? you dont think that there is a team of advisors at ntl: who sat down and discussed ways to try to calm down excessive users of their broadband services in a bid to keep the network running smooth?

kronas · 08-07-2003, 20:24

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Originally posted by matty4donna
so let me get this straight.... you lot think he was the only reason why the "cap" came about? you dont think that there is a team of advisors at ntl: who sat down and discussed ways to try to calm down excessive users of their broadband services in a bid to keep the network running smooth?

he is the NTL internet technical directer he has huge input on what goes on with the BB service his head should roll for it............

matty4donna · 08-07-2003, 20:25

and has the cap affected you really?