Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
17-07-2011, 16:02
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Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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17-07-2011, 16:25
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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Well l would be staggered if it cost Virgin £144 million a year.
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17-07-2011, 16:37
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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Zinga, of Plaistow, East London, and Pillai, of *Hainault, Essex, got eight and six years in jail respectively after being found guilty of conspiracy to defraud.
Patel, of Plaistow, admitted the same charge and was sentenced to a year.
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17-07-2011, 16:47
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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Well l would be staggered if it cost Virgin £144 million a year.
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That's what I thought at first but if you divide the £144 million by the 400,000 boxes it gives you £360 per box - or £50 per month....assuming my sums are correct 
I guess they are basing that on access to all premium services which these boxes would probably have, whether they were watched or not.
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17-07-2011, 16:55
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
It didn't 'cost' Virgin anything a year. the figure of £144m is based on if those people paid for what they were having for free.
it's a bit like saying they lost £144m a year from not having BTs customers as their customers.
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17-07-2011, 17:02
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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It didn't 'cost' Virgin anything a year. the figure of £144m is based on if those people paid for what they were having for free.
it's a bit like saying they lost £144m a year from not having BTs customers as their customers.
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Only if the BT customers were using VM's equipment, bandwidth, and services.....
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17-07-2011, 17:11
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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Only if the BT customers were using VM's equipment, bandwidth, and services.....
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I was thinking along the lines of Virgin were paying BT £144M a year in costs.
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17-07-2011, 17:21
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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Originally Posted by Gary L
It didn't 'cost' Virgin anything a year. the figure of £144m is based on if those people paid for what they were having for free.
it's a bit like saying they lost £144m a year from not having BTs customers as their customers.
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Only if the BT customers were using VM's equipment, bandwidth, and services.....
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I was thinking along the lines of Virgin were paying BT £144M a year in costs.
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All that matters is they are now in jail and i hope have soap on a rope .
As for the others still waiting on court cases to start i hope they see this and think OH POO looks like i am going to jail.
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17-07-2011, 21:44
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
I honestly couldn't care less either way, however i think 8 & 6 years in jail for watching a Television channel you haven't paid for is ridicoulus. I find it shocking that people are applauding a system that causes someone to lose over 10%-20% (depends on parole) of their life because of some entertainment that doesn't even affect anyone elses everyday life.
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17-07-2011, 21:54
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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I honestly couldn't care less either way, however i think 8 & 6 years in jail for watching a Television channel you haven't paid for is ridicoulus. I find it shocking that people are applauding a system that causes someone to lose over 10%-20% (depends on parole) of their life because of some entertainment that doesn't even affect anyone elses everyday life.
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They didn't get 8&6 years for watching telly ,they got 8&6 years for fraud and quite a well set up fraud it was so it was a well justified sentence
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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I honestly couldn't care less either way, however i think 8 & 6 years in jail for watching a Television channel you haven't paid for is ridicoulus. I find it shocking that people are applauding a system that causes someone to lose over 10%-20% (depends on parole) of their life because of some entertainment that doesn't even affect anyone elses everyday life.
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They were selling hundreds of set top boxes which allowed people to defraud the cable company.
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17-07-2011, 22:11
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
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They were selling hundreds of set top boxes which allowed people to defraud the cable company.
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Ah makes sense, it did seem strange to me how long they were jailed for. If it was for just using a dodgy box, anything over a year would be excessive imo.
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17-07-2011, 23:41
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
Don't forget the costs of policing things and having systems to clean up noise that fraudulent use may cause.
Also what if the fraud caused real customers to loose service. And then leave.
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18-07-2011, 09:45
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
The cost estimate is from the same straw man school as the entertainment industry claiming that piracy costs them a certain amount, the jail sentences are well deserved though it does vex a bit in general how crimes against corporations seem to be punished more than crimes against persons.
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18-07-2011, 18:19
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Re: Set-top box fraud 'cost Virgin £144m a year'
i thought the new system that they put in place for their TVs was uncrackable and thats why they replaced the cards.
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