Why Does Everyone Think Virgin Are Rubbish ?

[Bobby55]

Originally Posted by TraxData2

Someone needs to learn what sarcasm and satire are



Yes, because your using connection at full speed for more than 20 minutes in a day is "abuse" isnt it?

See your still stuck in the 90s, just like the whole of VM, file sizes aint small anymore, i have 3 pcs on my network, all of which get used...guess..yep, you got it, when i'm awake, when i'm at home and when i need it.


Trax can you explain something to me. Virgin claims only 5% of customers are affected by SRM. Is this wrong?

And secondly, am I right in thinking the other ISPs employ shaping or fair usage. Surely that's equally bad?

And a final point, you paint VM as worse than the competition, but on through put speeds they regulary top the surveys.

Interesting in knowing more from you or someone else on the forum.




Not all day? your right it isnt, the only problem here is people do this wonderful thing called sleeping at night and an even better thing called working during the daytime.

10am-9PM may as well be all day, i wont count the 3-4pm free slot as it's no use to you if u've already hit the STM

[Pontiac]

The only downside I see to Virgin is STM on their broadband internet. Other than that, I can't see much wrong with them. There should be an option to pay something extra for no STM, and they should then use that money to upgrade the network. I've actually seen more network slowdown SINCE the introduction of STM, that's the funny thing.

[arcamalpha2004]

Originally Posted by Pontiac

The only downside I see to Virgin is STM on their broadband internet. Other than that, I can't see much wrong with them. There should be an option to pay something extra for no STM, and they should then use that money to upgrade the network. I've actually seen more network slowdown SINCE the introduction of STM, that's the funny thing.

Pay more for not being shaped?
Why dont VM get shut of the " few " as they put it, they do not publish the actual figure, of people who as they put it " spoil the experience"
VM do not do easy, its all lies imo to cover up for under investment.
Stop the stupid advertising for a start, paying premium money for " stars " to front the product.
The sooner BT roll out their product and we have a level playing field the better.
" Mother of Broadband " my backside.

[J..M]

I like Virgin cos their Inet works ........ Unlike pipex who unplugged me then blocked my line & ignored all my letters ...... Oh Virgil is cheaper too .... Which is good ....... Their installation guys are Numpties tho

[Graham M]

Originally Posted by J..M

I like Virgin cos their Inet works ........ Unlike pipex who unplugged me then blocked my line & ignored all my letters ...... Oh Virgil is cheaper too .... Which is good ....... Their installation guys are Numpties tho

I think the installation staff who post here will have something to say about that...

[J..M]

I'm amazed they can actually write ....... Unless they have a trained monkey to do it for them

[foreverwar]

So you met all the installers who are employed by VM, did you?

Or are you making a vast sweeping generalisation based on one or two people?

[J..M]

Vast sweeping generalisation it is

In my neighbourhood they do (Virgin Media the entire company) have a poor reputation .....

Mainly for the way the installations were/are carried out ...... Trip hazards are the norm, Lil Jonny finding road side cabinets ajar & being able to twiddle with the innards..... Holes dug (Pretty much anywhere) & left for months on end ...... I kid you not.

Still I guess some poor sod will end up dying one day ...... & all of a sudden it will be their own fault for not complaining sooner

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

The sooner BT roll out their product and we have a level playing field the better.
" Mother of Broadband " my backside.

You really think BT's recent announcement that it will be rolling out fibre will come to VM's areas? Not likely mate. BT have insisted they won't make the investment unless ofcom slack regs which means they are able to make a worthwhile profit from their investment. This stink to me of BT wanting to charge over inflated prices to offer fibre bb connections. They also want max penetration of the market and have no competition which also tells me that they won't be doing it in VM areas for the forseeable future because they want to invest in areas where they are going to make money and where there is competition they won't make the sort of money they can if they offered fibre optic bb in non vm areas.

[J..M]

Umm....... Where are these optic fibres then ?

Do they feed the steel cubicals VM have at the side of the road ? ...... Cos the stuff under my garden is copper ........

What I do know is @ peak times both VM & BT sloooooooow right down...... Which ain't brill.... But it would appear to be one of those unfortunate facts of life......Another fact of life is that VM is cheaper

[foreverwar]

I always thought it was fibre to the cabinet (but could be wrong), then copper to your house.

[J..M]

I will take a photo of the cabinets innards next time I'm passing it ....... It currently has a piece of ....... well concrete leaning on the door keeping it closed..... I suppose it should be taped shut really (Got a whooping big roll of duct tape somewhere) Ok I know it should be fixed properly ............. But ..... Well I foned em four weeks ago & ferk all has happened


I'm not just a moaning old git ........ But a few weeks ago when it was windy a kid on his bike swerved round this errant cubicle door as it blew open in the wind.... Trouble was he swerved out in to the road, & I was zoomin' down the street in me car at the time and I nearly had kiddy supprise rollin' over me bonnet.... Still there ya are.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

As far as i am aware, VM will have a lot of work to do, to keep customers soon, as l heard a rumour, that Sky are going to have trials in Swindon, l believe, to run a cable network of there own, so that could kill off VM completely.

[Stuart C]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

As far as i am aware, VM will have a lot of work to do, to keep customers soon, as l heard a rumour, that Sky are going to have trials in Swindon, l believe, to run a cable network of there own, so that could kill off VM completely.

Based upon past performance, I doubt Sky would do that. What they may be trialling is a Homechoice/Tiscali style IPTV system based upon ADSL. Not sure they'd even trial that, as any such system would be competing against Sky's satellite system as well.

Unless, of course, VOD has affected Sky more than they are willing to let on, after all with the current Sky, Sky + and Sky HD boxes it is impossible to create a system that offers the amount of content Virgin's VOD does.

[foreverwar]

Arthur, Sky bought EasyNet a couple of years ago, which gives them a network and local loop access, so your rumour is in fact, history.