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Old 29-11-2007, 02:16   #31
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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

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Just those going onto 50mbit will need a new modem.

Docsis3 will be set on a different frequency, so wont affect lower tiers.

Will actually release stress from the current network.

Clone status = zero on docsis3, their days are nearly over
correct me if i'm wrong but, different frequencies would mean 2 separate 'networks' but over the same cables and so congestion on the lower tiers wont affect the 50mb tier and vice versa?

regarding the cloning, is that a physically possibility or just a 'its hard to get hold of a docsis3 compliant modem so it'll happen eventually' thing?
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correct me if i'm wrong but, different frequencies would mean 2 separate 'networks' but over the same cables and so congestion on the lower tiers wont affect the 50mb tier and vice versa?

regarding the cloning, is that a physically possibility or just a 'its hard to get hold of a docsis3 compliant modem so it'll happen eventually' thing?
Correct and as to your question on docsis3, its not so much the implementation of docsis3, as that will get cracked eventually, its more the new system they have been testing with docsis3, hackers simply aint gonna be bale to get around it for quite some time, and if/when they do, they'll be caught rather easily.
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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

so how much does docsis 3.0 cost to implentment
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Correct and as to your question on docsis3, its not so much the implementation of docsis3, as that will get cracked eventually, its more the new system they have been testing with docsis3, hackers simply aint gonna be bale to get around it for quite some time, and if/when they do, they'll be caught rather easily.
a better authentication system that only legit modems can complete?
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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

there is something on the new modems that will stop cloners not sure but a mate at work vm was telling me
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Lol your wrong on the upload, but lets not go there

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There is no cap/STM on 50mbit, nor will there be.
Hmmmm I'll wait and see on that.
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they cant do 8meg, nevermind 50!
cable network can phone line adsl can

vast difference in technologies
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I think he was referring to the fact he has 20mb and gets slow speeds
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a better authentication system that only legit modems can complete?
Also correct, amongst other things the cloners have no idea about yet, and its not information im going to discuss so they can all go jumping around working out how to get around it especially since those cloners browse this site.
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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

I'm not asking you to divulge anything that you don't want to / shouldn't - i'm just curious to find out anything i can
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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

I'll be waiting for some VM CS telling me that my 250 will be able to handle 50Mb+
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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

hehehehehehe it can cant it lol
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hehehehehehe it can cant it lol
no current modem VM use supports docsis3 afaik.

i assume when the original docsis was brought about, cloning wasnt an issue (much like email spam), but seeing as docsis3 will require modem swaps, VM have now got time to come up with ways to "stop" the cloning and won't have to worry about compatibility with existing modems as they'll need to be swapped anyway
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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

omfg I was been stupid of cousre the 250's cant handle 50 mb but I am customer care thats why I said it because the the prev post said he is waiting for cs to tell him the 250's can handle 50Mb

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Re: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year.

I will not be holding my breath over this. There again it might mean i will get 20mb if i sign for the 50 mb
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