She tells it like it is.

Paul H · 13-05-2007, 21:28

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could be one of the most expensive marketing disasters in business history

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/columnists/article.html?in_article_id=420273&in_page_id=19&in _author_id=2

Nedkelly · 13-05-2007, 21:31

It was also in the Sunday Mail as well

Paul H · 13-05-2007, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Nedkelly

It was also in the Sunday Mail as well

Was you keeping it a secret from us?

Nedkelly · 13-05-2007, 21:36

NO There was some valid points in there but lets see what happens a year on it is still early days yet .It is still the same peole who ran the old companys still in charge in my view these people need to go but thats my opinion

Paul H · 13-05-2007, 21:38

Telewest was ok, it's the NTL side of the two that is bringing it down.

Nedkelly · 13-05-2007, 21:43

They never mention telewest in the press its alway Virgin Media aka ntl

13-05-2007, 22:23

Interesting article. The business world is strange though isnt it,with all the bad press VM is getting and attidues towards the company quite bad in certain areas of real life as well as here you would almost think they are doomed to fail. Think maybe things will get better if not someone will take over and do something so in the end it wont make a huge amount of difference to me so ill let those involved worry about it

wigro · 14-05-2007, 00:07

Thames Water was last year ordered to spend an extra Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£150m on upkeep of its pipes.

Funny i thought there was a smokin ban soon

ok il stop reading articles in links

dontpannic · 14-05-2007, 08:56

Pffffft!

Excuse me, but that is the most biased piece of crap reporting I've ever seen.

Taking the mick out of the "bullying", small "mini" dishes that Hyacinth Bucket couldn't turn down??

Tosh. It's still a dish. You still can't have it on listed buildings, you still get a rubbish service, and you still have cables stapled from the top to the bottom of your house.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone with this post - I don't see how this can be classed as reporting.

NTLVictim · 14-05-2007, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Creative

The muppets at Telewest who stayed in control of the TV side have tied Virgin into MPEG2 for HD. They abandoned an MPEG4 HD STB ntl had been developing complete with an alternative Interactive platform with a proven record in Europe. Same manufacturer for both boxes though! A Sky matching/beating product it would have been.
Short sighted muppets, they will still be playing catchup in 5 years time. But it was the cheap option!

Aha, an insider..exactly whose management took over what bits when it all merged? As a VM customer I'd just like to know!

etccarmageddon · 14-05-2007, 09:12

I think it is a poor/sloppy article because she talks about the "...merging Virgin with NTL..." which isn't the case. NTL (after merging with Telewest) bought the Virgin brand and merged/bought the mobile phone business.

Anyone reading that article who is unfamiliar with the history of the merger etc would read into it that Branson has put his empire at risk by merging Virgin with a struggling cable company.

Paul H · 14-05-2007, 09:42

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

I think it is a poor/sloppy article because she talks about the "...merging Virgin with NTL..." which isn't the case. NTL (after merging with Telewest) bought the Virgin brand and merged/bought the mobile phone business.

Anyone reading that article who is unfamiliar with the history of the merger etc would read into it that Branson has put his empire at risk by merging Virgin with a struggling cable company.

The word should be rebrand. but I do think that he has put his empire at risk by all the bad publicity surrounding the rebrand.

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Originally Posted by dontpannic

Pffffft!

Excuse me, but that is the most biased piece of crap reporting I've ever seen.

Taking the mick out of the "bullying", small "mini" dishes that Hyacinth Bucket couldn't turn down??

Tosh. It's still a dish. You still can't have it on listed buildings, you still get a rubbish service, and you still have cables stapled from the top to the bottom of your house.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone with this post - I don't see how this can be classed as reporting.

It is a smaller dish. before some people would stay with Virgin as having a great big dish on their property put them off from switching to Sky. having the choice of a smaller discreet dish would make them think that switching to Sky is now a viable option.

dontpannic · 14-05-2007, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Paul H

It is a smaller dish. before some people would stay with Virgin as having a great big dish on their property put them off from switching to Sky. having the choice of a smaller discreet dish would make them think that switching to Sky is now a viable option.

It may be a smaller dish, but smaller dish = reduced signal levels. How big is the new Sky dish? Still 35/40cm. Still too big and black in my opinion!

Nedkelly · 14-05-2007, 11:20

I wonder if this person has had a bad VM experiance and is venting some anger in her article ?

Womble · 14-05-2007, 11:57

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Originally Posted by NTLVictim

Aha, an insider..exactly whose management took over what bits when it all merged? As a VM customer I'd just like to know!

From my perspective Telewest took over NTL!! I've been to 2 work stream meetings and I was the only ex-ntl bod there!!
But, NTL's Customer Service may have been crap, but Telewest's were not that great either. As for systems, we seem to have gone over to the "telewest" way, which IMO are pants and don't work.. but hey ho

"The Lunatics have taken over the asylum" springs to mind