She tells it like it is. - Page 7

lostandconfused · 24-05-2007, 09:47

arcamalpha2004, how long have you been with sky? just sounds like this grudge you have with ntl seems to have been going on for sometime, they must have done something really bad to annoy you that much. Did they swear at your granny?

arcamalpha2004 · 24-05-2007, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostandconfused

arcamalpha2004, how long have you been with sky? just sounds like this grudge you have with ntl seems to have been going on for sometime, they must have done something really bad to annoy you that much. Did they swear at your granny?

Just the immature response to be expected from some here, join the queue

popper · 24-05-2007, 19:43

keep in mind that Virgin Media have also took in house the betting software etc, and even though Virgin games isnt officially part of VM you can bet

RB and Co will use the VM connection and service to profit were they can....

http://www.onlinecasinonews.com/ocnv...e.asp?id=13683
"Virgin Bets on Betfair CasinoBy Marianne Lambert

Virgin Games has announced the extension of its already bulging online gaming branding with the launch of Virgin Bets, in association with Betfair to offer novelty wagers alongside standard sportsbetting.

Virgin Bets is expected to cover a range of popular themes relating to entertainment media in the UK. According to Simon Burridge, chief executive officer Virgin Games, “Every year, millions of people spend millions of pounds phoning and texting votes into reality TV shows. Virgin Bets will give these reality TV experts a chance to back their favourite contestants and share the winning feeling.”

The marketing push, which is already being put together, is rumoured to focus on the digital arena. It will kick off in the autumn, when there will be particularly rich pickings from television entertainment. However, the traditional markets of football, motor sports, greyhound racing, rugby and other sports will not be neglected."

it seems they want to cash in on the UK's mug-punters limited cash flows........

Arthurgray50@blu · 24-05-2007, 20:01

Chris - Cable Forum,

I could not not agree more, everyone has there opion on different subjects

, and this forum is to give your views on a certain subject wether it is Sky, or cable tv, or wether Spurs are better than Arsenal.

Over the course of the last comments that l have made, l have been slagged off for what l have said, with me, it goes in one ear and out the other, and being a referee in football,l am used to it, so well done for what you have done.

popper · 25-05-2007, 00:39

lol you have to wonder if even this global indicator will click with the VM board...

not long before it hits the EU now, but VM wont worry i supose...

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/today/?p=1092
"
FttH shipments decline slightly

Posted in Cable, Newsline by Robert Briel on May 24th, 2007
Global FttH (Fibre to the Home) port shipments in Q1 2007 declined 5% quarter on quarter after a big jump in Q4 2006, according to Dittberner’s Broadband Shipment Analysis.

At 1.1 million ports, it was the second best quarter ever and up 13% YoY. The decline, after the jump in Q4 2006, was due to the change in the mixture of detached homes and apartments in the dominant Japanese market.

It is expected that this changing mixture will continue to cause some lumpiness in the FttH shipments for the foreseeable future, although the general trend remains upwards.

The FttH market is still dominated by Japan, which is itself increasingly dominated by NTT. With 4.5 million FttH subscribers, NTT has about five times the subscribers of Verizon, the next largest FTTH service provider, and approximately ten times its nearest domestic competitor.

The top four suppliers were Mitsubishi, Sumitomo, Hitachi and Tellabs with 33%, 21%, 14% and 11% market shares respectively.

Siemens moved into the fifth place spot with a 9% market share due to its success in the Korean market. FttH was launched in Korea in the first quarter and Dittberner estimates a million ports should be shipped into the market in 2007.

With Japan growing at a rate of three million subscribers a year, and Verizon and Korea likely to add one million and 800,000 subscribers respectively in 2007, the research firm estimates the FttH market will be 6.8 million FttH ports.

Feeling threatened by FTTH, cable operators are expected to quickly introduce DOCSIS 3.0, which will cause telephone companies to start deploying fibre even faster.

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http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/today/?p=1089

BigBand demoes IP-Based VOD And HD over cable modems

Posted in Technology, Newsline by Robert Briel on May 24th, 2007
ANGA CABLE – Cologne. BigBand Networks has been demonstrating the ability of its modular cable modem termination system (M-CMTS) solution to deliver video-on-demand (VOD) and IPTV over existing DOCSIS cable modems.

The exhibit highlights its M-CMTS solution’s ability to increase broadband speeds to support HD, IP video at a fraction of the cost of alternative methods. Though cable IPTV is a relatively nascent technology, one operator is already using BigBand’s Cuda CMTS—a key element of its M-CMTS solution—to deliver IP-based VOD to subscribers.

“Our M-CMTS solution provides extraordinary cost benefits by improving performance on existing infrastructure, and we’re demonstrating that it is capable of delivering advanced IP video services,” said John Holobinko,VP and manager of cable IP for the company.

“There is simply no need for operators to embark on a proprietary approach to IP video; DOCSIS and M-CMTS provide an excellent, standards-based roadmap.”

BigBand’s exhibit includes two distinct demonstrations of its M-CMTS video capabilities. The first is a multi-vendor demonstration that leverages a VOD server from BitBand, a Camiant policy server and application manager, a VOD session manager from eventIS and Zappware’s set-top box middleware to deliver VOD over Docsis 2.0 modems.

The second demonstration leverages BigBand’s M-CMTS architecture with DOCSIS 3.0 channel bonding and a channel bonding cable modem to deliver both standard and HD video to an IPTV set-top box.|"

finally for the NTL:tw ohh i mean VM, for the failed PR blitz of giving all the end users Docsis2.0 modems, now all they need do is rip out the old Docsis1.1 head-end kit and they could start the IPTV (remember thats not the same as VOD)gravy train...., shame it would only be to your AVC enabled [the same core AVC codec that Joost licenced] PC as the STB's cant do AVC remember, but still a begining.

popper · 25-05-2007, 06:12

hehe, their all at it now, perhaps the users should start their own bandwagon, roll on the small claims people.
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/n...AAkklpVMiPnpVV
"Nildram (Pipex) Introduces Traffic ManagementBy: MarkJ @ 8:38 AM
UK ISP Nildram, despite abandoning a similar method last year (here), has stealthily reintroduced broadband 'Traffic Management' to its service without directly informing customers.

The Pipex owned provider formally introduced the restrictions on Monday (21st May) and has offered up an FAQ page to answer any questions - HERE:

We will be implementing a new form of traffic management profile, which will dynamically adjust the amount of bandwidth available to certain applications based upon a weighting.

This weighting allows us to preference interactive traffic such us HTTP (Web), VoIP and VPN over non-interactive traffic, such as P2P (peer to peer) and NNTP (Newsgroups). This provides an important quality of service improvement for these applications where delays have a very noticeable effect and we expect that Nildram customers will see improved performance from these applications.

However, at less busy times, when fewer customers are using interactive applications, the remainder of the allocated bandwidth for interactive traffic can be made available for non-interactive traffic.

The move is likely to concern gamers,......"
more

25-05-2007, 06:46

I have said it before and i will say it again.

Its my opinion that most ISP's will have some form of Traffic Management in place within 2 years. They have to be able to control the adverse effects of P2P on there networks.

popper · 25-05-2007, 06:56

interesting
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...l#post34313222

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C

I have said it before and i will say it again.

Its my opinion that most ISP's will have some form of Traffic Management in place within 2 years. They have to be able to control the adverse effects of P2P on there networks.

i agree Bill.

im just not sure Heavy restrictive 'Traffic Management' is the long term way.

im more convinced at the moment that they would be far better working to improving the open and free codebase, rather than fight the developers.

its got to be better to keep the majority inside the internal network and then be in a far better place to manage it in a good economical way, they could manage it for binary news, and joost type commercial services, so too for torrent and the next thing that surfaces.

but dont seem to want to invest in the right options.

yes i know

but multicasting/DHT would be a very good thing if someone just invested and bit the bullet, hell they could sell the IP to other commercial companys and make a bundle world wide....

25-05-2007, 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by popper

interesting
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...l#post34313222

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i agree Bill.

im just not sure Heavy restrictive 'Traffic Management' is the long term way.

im more convinced at the moment that they would be far better working to improving the open and free codebase, rather than fight the developers.

its got to be better to keep the majority inside the internal network and then be in a far better place to manage it in a good economical way, they could manage it for binary news, and joost type commercial services, so too for torrent and the next thing that surfaces.

but dont seem to want to invest in the right options.

yes i know

but multicasting/DHT would be a very good thing if someone just invested and bit the bullet, hell they could sell the IP to other commercial companys and make a bundle world wide....

Good post

popper · 25-05-2007, 08:01

hmmm, and so it begins.
(see also the full
Trust launches BBC HD public value test pdf link i put somewere ?)

the push from the BBC to use the AVC codec.
http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/news.php?...lass=0&id=2448
"
Grade calls on Jowell for loan of HD spectrum

ITV executive chairman Michael Grade has offered the Government a compromise solution in the campaign for spectrum to be reserved for high-definition broadcasts on digital terrestrial television (DTT). Grade told a Royal Television Society breakfast meeting, attended by culture secretary Tessa Jowell, that the UK's public service broadcasters would be willing to help "drive the transition to a more efficient transmission standard on DTT" if the Government loaned them "a little over a multiplex of capacity".

"In due course, once HD compatible boxes are sufficiently widespread, we will give the loaned spectrum back and it can be auctioned. Even if you did this Ofcom would still be able to auction nearly two thirds of the released spectrum now which would give plenty of space for successful bidders to develop mobile TV, wi-fi and so on."

Grade told Jowell that if she took this approach, and "made less spectrum available to the market in the next couple of years", the Government would not necessarily "take a big financial hit in terms of auction proceeds"........"

Chrysalis · 25-05-2007, 11:10

Judging by whats going on at nildram even supposed prioritised traffic is slower. Unshaped traffic just passes through routers, however when shaping it all has to be analysed or at least all the headers do, so if the shaping equipment itself is saturated it would mean all traffic regardless of type is slower.

I agree if shaping is used in a correct manner it should be beneficial, the main problems I see with implementations of it are.

1 - Its used to replace network investment instead of complimenting it. ie. fitting more customers on smaller capacity.
2 - The shaping is too agressive isps often throttling unfashionable protocols to dual isdn speeds.
3 - Protocol based shaping effectively telling customers they scum if their profile doesnt fit the right protocols.

The only isp that does some form of throttling/shaping that I think is doing it right is entanet. They have a anti packetloss tool it kicks in when their capacity is maxed out and gradually lowers everyones max burst speed in small steps until either the load is low enough or down to 2mbit burst speed. This ensires http etc. are still very useable and stops any packet loss, also it isnt very agressive and allows p2pers etc. to get reasonable speeds. Entanets throttling from what I see is only kicking in a few hours a day again unlike other isps who are throttling for most of the day due to saturated pipes.

The main issue here is thats hitting the uk particurly bad is most isps just want web browsing customers, but now media is taking off streaming etc. bursty usage is declining and more people are starting to use sustained traffic.

foreverwar · 25-05-2007, 11:12

Chrys

agree with your post, except for point 3 (re scum) - that part is a bit over the top (imho).

Chrysalis · 25-05-2007, 11:20

how would you better describe it, by protocol based shaping you are defining one type of traffic as higher class then another.

The issue here is each customer has different priorities, for customer A p2p will be important and need to be fast whilst for customer B http may be important.

Slow http generally means a extra few seconds for a site to load unless the case is very extreme or a very large site, whilst throttling youtube (isps often do) means pausing video streams and throttling p2p adds hours to the download time of something you may need fast.

foreverwar · 25-05-2007, 12:35

But when you fly or travel by train, they don't have first class and scum class.

Honestly, how often have you "had to" download something fast? Wanted to, yes, had to, mmmmmm.

NTLVictim · 25-05-2007, 15:08

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

But when you fly or travel by train, they don't have first class and scum class.

Oh yes they do, they just don't call them that out loud.